Thursday, November 7, 2013

Inter caste marriages - who has said what!

While the search for a right partner is on...various questions traverse mind...

One dominant one is Intercaste marriage, how appropriate is it in the backdrop of social conditioning to abstain from it.

Right or Wrong who could answer, Since i know Science or western philosophies are not too mature on question of life , i thought of checking out on much relaible indian ancient scriptures and what they have to say about it...

In Bhagvat Geeta Verse 40 : Arjuna has touched base on the topic of  intercast mariages in the below shloka:
adharmabhibhavat krsna
pradusyanti kula-striyah
strisu dustasu varsneya
jayate varna-sankarah

When irreligion is prominent in the family, O Krsna, the women of the family become corrupt, and from the degradation of womanhood, O descendant of Vrsni, comes unwanted progeny

questions further go on in more following verses of chapter 1. 

I per say was curious to know what Shri Krishna responded, and thy responds in chapter 2, verse 2

sri-bhagavan uvaca
kutas tva kasmalam idam
visame samupasthitam
anarya-justam asvargyam
akirti-karam arjuna
The Supreme Person [Bhagavan] said: My dear Arjuna, how have these impurities come upon you? They are not at all befitting a man who knows the progressive values of life. They do not lead to higher planets, but to infamy.


 hence it was getting clear to me, that Varna system referred in Bhagwat Geeta is not our cast system, it rather personality of an idividual, it further dawns upon me that in a family of Brahman's there's pretty much a possibility of a demon taking birth (one in jail we have is infamous  Manu Sharma of jessica lal murder case)

Then we have Mother Teresa highest order of seva a 'brahmin' could ever is full of examples from Gandhi, Einstein, Patel, Nelson Mandela and count goes on..they were not all brahmins but have explored life and achieved in respective streams.

So to summarise Varna remains an individual trait rather than something deriving hereditary, however may be chances remain high that a brahmin takes birth in a brahmin family and a sudra taking birth in a sudra family but in no way that is the only possibility.

Would like to share another extract from Gautam Budha's life :

A young boy approached Gautama Muni and begged to become his student. It was customary that only respectable brahmanas would be accepted for such spiritual training. Gautama therefore asked, "Who is your father?" "That I do not know," the boy replied. "So, please ask your mother." The boy's mother subsequently admitted, "My dear son, I have known many men. I do not know who is your father." The boy returned to Gautama Muni and relayed the embarrassing message, "Sir, my mother also does not know who my father is." Gautama Muni concluded, "Yes, you are a brahmana. I accept you because you are thoroughly honest."
from the Jabala Upanishad

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Tuesday, October 29, 2013

Atma-Shatakam / Nirvana Shatakam The Song of the Self

The Song of the Self by Adi Shankaracharya addresses
"Who Am I"

while explaining the question, the song also tells explains various aspects of being or the projected being, how far the seer has gone, its useful to understand the meaning of each word used hereby in details.

Sanskrit - English
मनो बुद्धि अहंकार चित्तानी नाहं
नच श्रोत्र जिव्हे नच घ्राण नेत्रे
Mano Buddhi Ahankara Chitta NinahamNacha Shrotra Jihve Na Cha Ghrana Netre

I am not mind, nor intellect, nor ego,
    nor the reflections of inner self (chitta)
I am not the five senses. 
I am beyond that.

नच व्योम भूमि न तेजो न वायु
चिदानंद रूपः शिवोहम शिवोहम ||1||
Nacha Vyoma Bhoomir Na Tejo Na Vayu
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

I am not the ether, nor the earth,
    nor the fire, nor the wind (the five elements).
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness.

नच प्राण संज्ञो न वै पञ्चवायुः
न वा सप्तधातु: नवा पञ्चकोशः

    Na Cha Prana Samjno Na Vai Pancha Vayu
Na Va Saptadhatur Na Va Pancha Koshah

Neither can I be termed as energy (prana),
    nor five types of breath (vayus),
nor the seven material essences,
    nor the five coverings (pancha-kosha)

न वाक्पाणिपादौ न च उपस्थ पायुः
चिदानंदरूप: शिवोहम शिवोहम ||2||
Na Vak Pani Padau Na Chopastha Payu
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

Neither am I the five instruments of elimination,
    procreation, motion, grasping, or speaking
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness.

नमे द्वेषरागौ नमे लोभ मोहौ
मदों नैव मे नैव मात्सर्यभावः
    Na Me Dvesha Ragau Na Me Lobha Mohau
Mado Naiva Me Naiva Matsarya Bhavah

I have no hatred or dislike,
    nor affiliation or liking,
    nor greed,
    nor delusion,
    nor pride or haughtiness,
    nor feelings of envy or jealousy.

न धर्मो नचार्थो न कामो न मोक्षः
चिदानंदरूप: शिवोहम शिवोहम ||3||
Na Dharmo Na Chartho Na Kamo Na Mokshah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

I have no duty (dharma),
    nor any money,
    nor any desire (kama),
    nor even liberation (moksha).
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness.

न पुण्यं न पापं न सौख्यं न दु:खं
न मंत्रो न तीर्थं न वेदों न यज्ञः
    Na Punyam Na Papam Na Saukhyam Na Dukham
Na Mantro Na Teertham Na Vedo Na Yajnaha

I have neither merit (virtue),
    nor demerit (vice).
I do not commit sins or good deeds,
    nor have happiness or sorrow,
    pain or pleasure.
I do not need mantras, holy places,
    scriptures (Vedas), rituals or sacrifices (yagnas).

अहम् भोजनं नैव भोज्यम न भोक्ता
चिदानंद रूप: शिवोहम शिवोहम ||4||-->
Aham Bhojanam Naiva Bhojyam Na Bhokta
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

I am none of the triad of
    the observer or one who experiences,
    the process of observing or experiencing,
    or any object being observed or experienced.
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness.

नमे मृत्युशंका नमे जातिभेद:
पिता नैव मे नैव माता न जन्म

    Na Me Mrityu Shanka Na Me Jati Bhedah
Pita Naiva Me Naiva Mata Na Janma

     I do not have fear of death,
    as I do not have death.
I have no separation from my true self,
    no doubt about my existence,
    nor have I discrimination on the basis of birth.
I have no father or mother,
    nor did I have a birth.

न बंधू: न मित्रं गुरु: नैव शिष्यं
चिदानंद रूप: शिवोहम शिवोहम ||5||
Na Bandhur Na Mitram Gurur Naiva Shishyah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

I am not the relative,
    nor the friend,
    nor the guru,
    nor the disciple.
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness.

अहम् निर्विकल्पो निराकार रूपो
विभुर्व्याप्य सर्वत्र सर्वेन्द्रियाणाम
    Aham Nirvikalpo Nirakara Roopaha
Vibhur Vyapya Sarvatra Sarvendriyanam

I am all pervasive.
I am without any attributes,
    and without any form.
I have neither attachment to the world,
    nor to liberation (mukti).

सदा मे समत्वं न मुक्ति: न बंध:
चिदानंद रूप: शिवोहम शिवोहम ||6||
Sada Me Samatvam Na Muktir Na Bandhah
Chidananda Rupa Shivoham Shivoham

I have no wishes for anything
    because I am everything,
    every time,
    always in equilibrium.
I am indeed,
    That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,
    love and pure consciousness